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Thu Aug 15, 2013, 7:41 PM

In our continuous quest to improve the deviantART experience, we have made some changes to the Journal categories that have resulted in a much more condensed and simplified group of selections. The simplification of categories will make the Journal submission process even easier, and make it easier to browse and find Journals you love.

The old category tree was trying to be too specific, which in turn made it tough to find the right category to submit to. The new categories are meant to be clearer, broader, and more inclusive. Starting today, all existing Journals will be migrated to the new category tree.

Background


by techgnotic founder of depthRADIUS

What lead to this decision, you may ask? Like the torrid fate of many categories,  in trying to be all-inclusive and find an appropriate lid for every pot, all that’s really been achieved is a scattering of too much really great stuff across too broad a cognitive landscape.  Too much material that would have been of interest to a particular deviant is getting lost and never seen because it was posted in a similar but different category and never interfaced by the browsing deviant in question.  A tragedy. 

We are currently trying to encourage a much more dynamic – simpler but hopefully more efficient and effective – communication between deviants by reviving an ancient arcane system of "less is more" that still may be the most productive and ultimately informative information distribution tool ever devised by humankind. 

It’s important here at deviantART in our efforts to remain the worldwide leader in arts advocacy, education and entertainment that the contributions of our members and visitors really count for something in the great burning forge of human evolution.  To be a real news, information and opinion hub for everything arts requires our never being satisfied with being no more than the biggest static bulletin board or counter of clicks.  Deviants should be aware that we are always looking for suggestions on how to better facilitate their thoughts and concerns making it through to the artists and others they’re trying to reach.  Ideas matter.  We will continue to honor them with our best efforts in their best presentation.



The New Journal Tree



Journals

  • DeviantART Announcements - Official deviantART news, updates and information. Submission to this category is limited to deviantART staff only. 
  • Official deviantART Contests - Officially sponsored contests run by deviantART.  Submission to this category is limited to deviantART Staff only. 
  • Art Features - Journals related to the topic of art, features based on a specific theme, how-to articles, collections of deviations and interviews with artists. 
  • Literature Features - Journals related to the topic of literature, features based on a specific theme, collections of written deviations and interviews with writers. 
  • Software Reviews - Reviews of new and existing software. 
  • Deviant Events - Journals promoting community events or news, such as, community run contests, projects, deviantMEETS and chat events. 
  • Personal - Personal updates about yourself and your life.

     


1. What happens to the old categories?

   During the transition period, the old journal categories will be closed to new submissions but will be available to browse.  Your journals will not be lost.


2. Do I need to move my old journals to the new categories?

    Not at all, this is a minimal effort change for you.  Through the magic of Devious Technology, we will work to move your existing journals into the new categories.  In an effort to not spam you all, these moves will be done silently, meaning that you won't end up with a message center full of 'Your journal has been moved' notes.  Also, if you feel that your journal was not put into a correct category, please feel free to move it to a more appropriate one. 


3. How long will it take to move the old journals into the new categories?


   To put it into perspective, there are approximately 41 million journal submissions.  However! We aren't changing the "Personal" category, which accounts for 40 million of those entries ;P.  To move the remaining 1 million, it can take Devious Technology up to a month to complete.  


4. What happens when the old journals have been moved?

    Once all of the old categories have been cleared out, they will be removed from browse and deleted and the transition process will be completed!



If there are any other questions you may have that have not been addressed, please leave them in the comments below.


Thank you!





Details about the changes to the Journal Category tree. Check out the information to learn how these changes will affect your current and future journal submissions.
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:iconevillionblaze:
evillionblaze Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I know this is an old journal but can you explain the category in this deviation-  evillionblaze.deviantart.com/a…
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:iconmoonbeam13:
Moonbeam13 Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
It was a teaser category to introduce DeviantART muro
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:iconevillionblaze:
evillionblaze Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
O.O      ooooh  :D
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:icontobaeus:
Tobaeus Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2013   Writer
So does this mean my journals for promoting published deviants (and links to their publisshed work) goes under personal? Or under Literature Features?
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:iconmoonbeam13:
Moonbeam13 Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Literature Features would be perfect!
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:icontobaeus:
Tobaeus Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2013   Writer
Sweet. I'll keep that in mind when I have to make another journal. :)
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:iconsurisaku:
surisaku Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
is it on purpose that the sheet is gone or is my journal broken?
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:iconmoonbeam13:
Moonbeam13 Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
What sheet are you referring to?
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:iconsurisaku:
surisaku Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
The one where i write the text but instead its empty
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:iconsurisaku:
surisaku Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I think my computer just got an error. Thank you and sorry
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:iconax413:
ax413 Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2013
A question. Where would you say that something such as journals with music would fall under now? The most relevant category that I see is deviantART Related / Devious Fun / Other. What do you believe would be the most appropriate category to move these kinds of journals to? I'd just like to assure myself, that's all. :)
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:iconmoonbeam13:
Moonbeam13 Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
I think you'd be ok with 'Personal' or 'Deviant Events' :)
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:iconax413:
ax413 Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2013

I'd likely go with the former, since my journals aren't really events, contests, or projects (as of right now.) Since I only have three so far, I'm guessing that I should probably just switch them over to Journals > Personal in the mean time? Personal journals are submitted at such a rapid rate, I can only hope that the stuff doesn't get swamped, but I guess that's what Undiscovered is for. :XD: :lol:

 

I can't thank you two enough for the help. :thumbsup:

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:iconax413:
ax413 Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2013

I just find it strange that something that's not an event, contest, or project would fall under 'Deviant Events,' since my journals have been just transferred there automatically. Does that seem a little odd, or is it just me?

 

Also, it appears that there might be a bug in the system on my end, as my Statistics show me having 3 deviations when I have none. Just thought I'd throw that out there.

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:iconkatara-alchemist:
Katara-Alchemist Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2013  Student General Artist
It depends. What exactly do you mean by "with music"? Are you just embedding, say, youtube videos of popular songs? Sharing your own music? Something else?
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:iconax413:
ax413 Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2013
It would be embedding various YouTube videos, essentially just of different songs or soundtracks. If I was good at making music I would probably share it, but I'm not. Sweating a little... 
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:iconkatara-alchemist:
Katara-Alchemist Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2013  Student General Artist
Those would probably be best suited to the Personal category under the new system. :)
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:iconax413:
ax413 Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2013

It'd definitely be one of the two, Personal being somewhat more appropriate since anything and everything can go there. Plus, it's more about what you, you alone, are listening to at the time, so it would be a bit more Personal. I'm thinking that Devious Fun might be more catered towards Journal-run games, if that is even a thing; not really sure. Shrug 

This is going to take a little bit of time to get used to, but mostly everyone adjusts eventually. Thanks. :)

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:iconkatara-alchemist:
Katara-Alchemist Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2013  Student General Artist
Welcome. :)
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:iconzouberi:
Zouberi Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2013   Photographer
Meh.
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:iconsingingflames:
SingingFlames Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I like this change. Some of the old journal categories were a little hard to navigate or choose from, especially for new deviants trying to learn the system. Excellent update. :nod:
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:iconredmatilda:
redmatilda Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
I don't seem to be able to edit an existing journal entry at the moment :( Is that to be expected?
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:iconmoonbeam13:
Moonbeam13 Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Can you walk me through what you're trying to do? Are you getting an error message?
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:iconredmatilda:
redmatilda Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Hi...I posted an update on the actual Help site where my request was lodged, but perhaps you didn't receive it? I was using Chrome, and I simply used the usual methods of accessing the journal editing facility, and no actual content was displayed for editing, which is when I put in the help request. After receiving the confirmation email, which  mentioned Chrome sometimes has problems, I used Internet Explorer instead, and everything worked properly - i.e. the journal content displayed and could be edited as usual. I can't see anything weird in my Chome setting to explain the problem - I usually prefer Chrome for the dA website as I have issues submitting art and prints in Internet Explorer.
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:iconmoonbeam13:
Moonbeam13 Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
I use Chrome and I don't seem to have an issue, but if it's something the help desk is saying a known issue they would know best :) Did you ask them in that ticket if it was something being resolved?
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:iconredmatilda:
redmatilda Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
The help desk didn't say it was a known issue in relation to journal editing, only a general issue with Chrome sometimes with this site if adblock is enabled, though I can't see where I might have enabled this, so it's odd you're okay with Chrome and I'm not. I didn't ask if the help desk had resolved the issue though.
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:iconmoonbeam13:
Moonbeam13 Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
I don't have adblock as an extension do you?

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:iconredmatilda:
redmatilda Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
No...the problem turned out to be an extension called 'WiseConvert'. The Help Desk got back to me and said to disable the extensions, and I only had two, so it was easy enough to find the culprit - didn't know about these types of problems before, so it was good to find out, and now Chrome loads faster too :D
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:iconmoonbeam13:
Moonbeam13 Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Yay good to know!

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:iconphoenixdestruction:
PhoenixDestruction Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2013
Awesome!!
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:iconanoya:
Anoya Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2013   Photographer
Less is definitely more =)
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:iconphoenixleo:
phoenixleo Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2013
 "The old category tree was trying to be too specific, which in turn made it tough to find the right category to submit to"

On a side note, could you/anyone give an example of a situation where i twas tough to find the right category?
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:iconfadingninja:
FadingNinja Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I could have sworn the old Journal categories were just "The Journal Portal" and "Personal." That shows how much I know. :lol:
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:iconphoenixleo:
phoenixleo Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2013
Well, I suppose I have to see how it feels and looks overall when everything is set and done. That would then help with what feels wrong or could be improved upon. But something like these would really work great if we had an excellent search system, even more than the current one to start. But yes, will have to wait and see I suppose.
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:iconastrikos:
Astrikos Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2013   General Artist
I LOVE This update. 
It will be harder for people to submit random giveaway journals. 
I hope. :lol: 
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:iconiwillbeyourrabbit:
IWillBeYourRabbit Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
The update does look nice, I just dislike that the journals are now centered because I had a little custom box that held all the special songs I had sent my boyfriend and now it's all distorted and crushed.
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:iconxsakurachu:
xSakuraChu Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
This seems good. :)
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:iconpepper-head:
Pepper-Head Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2013
Seems simple enough! <3 Deviant Events may be my favorite category vuv

I'm happy to see an update to the site that is actually good. I guess because it doesn't really implement any "aesthetic" changes. 
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:iconmajorasmasks:
MajorasMasks Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2013  Professional Artisan Crafter
Please make me understand: does your Devious Technology staff need to move that million of journals manually, or is the process somewhat automatic?  _
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:iconconniekidd:
conniekidd Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Sounds much simpler! :thumbsup: revamp 
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:iconthe-b3ing:
the-b3ing Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2013  Student Digital Artist
This is a fine update.
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:iconrachburns:
RachBurns Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I think I like this one. For a journal, it's a ton better than having to go through every category like with a deviation...somehow, it never made sense to me. 

Thank y'all for doing this one!
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:icontrinitysage:
TrinitySage Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Okay...so I tried looking for a Help Faq on these journal categories but all I saw was a comments page where you could make suggestions.

Basically I do Art Features everyday and I would like to change the category of my journals to reflect that.
Could someone please explain to me how I change it from Journal/Personal?
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:iconartvelocity:
artvelocity Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2013
I think we should be forced to choose mature content for journals and choose a categlory like when we submit deviations.
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:iconshadow0b:
Shadow0B Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
This is rather helpful.
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:iconmoonbeam13:
Moonbeam13 Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
:)
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:iconalexandrasalas:
alexandrasalas Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
:thumbsup:
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:iconroses-to-ashes:
Roses-to-Ashes Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
:( not happy you got rid of the contest tabs for "non official" contests... I honestly could care less what DA contests are being held.. I would rather see group contests and personal contests..
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:iconfirewings26:
FireWings26 Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2013  Student General Artist
That's what the events category is for. "Deviant Events - Journals promoting community events or news, such as, community run contests, projects, deviantMEETS and chat events." Or are you meaning you would still want two entirely different categories: one for events and one for community contests? *shrugs* I think putting them together seems good. Might be a little murky if you're looking solely for contests, but it would be cool to see what all is going on in the community in one place. 
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:iconleathurkatt-tftiggy:
Leathurkatt-TFTiggy Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I like the new Journal Category Tree, it makes things easier to categorize.
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