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1. Daily Deviations
2. Bi-weekly Critique Nights
3. Volunteer Openings
4. Share Your Opinions
5. Community Projects
6. Official Contests
7  Project Educate 2011/2012
8. Art History
9. News from the Galleries


1. Daily Deviations


Recently, I announced changes to Daily Deviations in this journal and I'm happy to say that the response has been favorable.  To review, we have made the following changes:

a> The "3-month rule" is now the "6-month rule" meaning an artist cannot receive another DD if they have had one in the last 6 months.

b> Daily Deviation selectors are limited to a maximum of one selection per day.  This has been put in place to focus on quality vs quantity.


The hard-coding of these new guidelines is now in place (special thanks to ZombieCoder for that :heart:). 

These changes are part of an ongoing initiative to better our Daily Deviation selection and ensure they are reflecting the variety and talent that exist here in the deviantART community.

What I would love to discuss next, is Daily Deviation descriptions! I have my own opinions that I wrote about here regarding them.  However, I want to know how you, the deviantART community, feels about them.

I'd like some thoughtful discussion so we can really break down if they are helpful, required, a nuisance etc.  So please think about the following questions and give me your input in the comments below:
                   
:bulletpurple: Do you feel descriptions on daily deviations should be mandatory? If so, why?
:bulletpurple: Do you find descriptions distract from the artwork?
:bulletpurple: I believe that writing descriptions is an art form itself so if someone isn't comfortable writing something, I'd prefer they leave it black, agree or disagree?
:bulletpurple: What makes a good description for you? What are you looking for when you read them?
:bulletpurple: Any other thoughts or suggestions you have I would love to hear!


I'm really looking forward to the conversations around this :excited:


2. Bi-weekly Critique Nights


Every other week the Community Relations team is going to gather in our chatroom #communityrelations and critique artwork! Each event will focus on a different genre/medium and this week - February 22, 2011 at 3pm Eastern/12pm Pacific/8pm GMT it will be Manga/Anime.

We've started a line-up that you can access here.  Stay tuned for upcoming events!



3. Volunteer Openings in Community Relations


If you're interested in learning more about being a volunteer on deviantART please read FAQ #85: Can I be a volunteer on deviantART?


I'm currently looking for people in the following areas:
:bulletpink: Chats & Forum
:bulletpink: Designs & Interface
:bulletpink: Fan-fiction
:bulletpink: Film & Animation
:bulletpink: Photography - Darkroom
:bulletpink: Pixel Art
:bulletpink: Space Art & Sci-Fi
:bulletpink: Stock & Resources
:bulletpink: Street Art & Graffiti
:bulletpink: Traditional Art
:bulletpink: Traditional Art - Sculpture


If any of those sound like you, please check out this journal for information on how to apply


If there isn't a spot open please consider helping out from within the community.  Read How to be a guiding light and shining example by the awesome RockstarVanity :love:


4. Share Your Opinions!


I'm actively using my personal forum to try and connect more with the community and I have a series of threads:

:bulletpink: Questions for $Moonbeam13 or Community Relations? Ask here
:bulletpink: Suggestions for deviantART
:bulletpink: Gallery Changes or Addition Requests
:bulletpink: Suggestions for Project Educate


These forums are all accessible from my profile page at Moonbeam13 as well and I will be adding more. I encourage you to speak up and get involved! We're in this together :)

If you have a suggestion for a forum please send me a note! please do not create them yourself as it causes confusion on my page :) :thanks:



5.  Community Projects


:community:
:omg: Want to show your devious pride and get involved in ongoing Community Projects? Check out some of these!


6. Official Contests


:bulletpink: Love Is Contest - Deadline March 10, 2012
:bulletpink: Collaborative Digital Doll Contest - Deadline March 19, 2012

Please note that all contests end on the deadline stated at 11:59:59 PM PST


7. Project Educate 2011/2012


:bulletblue:Project Educate: The Full Schedule
:bulletblue: Photography Week Round Up
:bulletblue: Body Art Roundup
:bulletblue: Community Week
:bulletblue: Project Educate: Conceptual Photography Schedule

Watch projecteducate to learn how you can contribute and participate!

8. Art History


:bulletgreen: Full Schedule
:bulletgreen: Archive - Articles submitted so far

:bulletgreen: Street Photography - The Origins
:bulletgreen: A Visual History of 3D Art
:bulletgreen: Body Art - Ancient
:bulletgreen: Body Art - Middle Ages
:bulletgreen: Body Art - Modern Day
:bulletgreen: Impressionism : Pissarro
:bulletgreen: Impressionism : Monet


9.  News from the Galleries


:bulletblue: Anime/Manga- General Update

:bulletblue: Anthro
:bulletblack: Anthro Artists & Featured Interview - Issue #3 with Katmomma
:bulletblack: Changes To The Anthro Gallery
:bulletblack: Anthro Challenge #81 - Time contest


:bulletblue: Artisan Crafts
:bulletblack: Inspirational Artisan Crafts #14
:bulletblack: Artisan Craft Themed Challenge - Hearts
:bulletblack: Miniatures Category Addition


:bulletblue: Body Art & Modification
:bulletblack: 2012 Tattoo Conventions!


:bulletblue: Comics & Cartoons

:bulletblue: Community Projects

:bulletblue: Cosplay

:bulletblue: Customization
:bulletgreen: Digital Dolls

:bulletgreen: Emoticons
:bulletblack: Emoticon Gallery Changes
:bulletblack: Emoticonists on dA (Interviews)
:bulletblack: most popular Emotes from 2011


:bulletgreen: Handhelds & Icons
:bulletgreen: Wallpaper

:bulletgreen: Game Development Art

:bulletblue: DeviantART Related

:bulletblue:  Digital Art
:bulletgreen: 3-Dimensional
:bulletgreen: Fractal

:bulletgreen: Photomanipulation
:bulletblack: Photomanipulation for Beginners ~ an article about what photomanipulation is and what you need to try it - and on the ever so important issue of "where do I get pictures to play with?"
:bulletblack: Know your Basics, the photomanip way:
:bulletblack: Colour Theory
:bulletblack: Composition
:bulletblack: Perspective
:bulletblack: Tutorial Treasury:  01 | 02 | 03


:bulletgreen: Pixel Art

:bulletgreen: Vector>Vector

:bulletgreen: Vexel

:bulletblue: Fan Art


:bulletblue: Literature

:bulletblue: Photography
:bulletblack:Photography News
:bulletblack: General Photography Feature January 2012

:bulletgreen: Abstract & Surreal
:bulletgreen: Animals, Plants & Nature
:bulletgreen: Architecture

:bulletgreen: Artistic Nude
:bulletblack: Blue Artistic Nudes
:bulletblack: Artistic Nudes in Water
:bulletblack: Artistic Nudes in Fashion
:bulletblack: Artistic Nudes and Flowers
:bulletblack: Love


:bulletgreen: Conceptual
:bulletblack: The Power of Ideas # 3
:bulletblack:
Project Educate: Conceptual Photography Schedule

:bulletgreen: Fashion>Fashion

:bulletgreen: Fetish
:bulletblack:Orange Fetish Portraits
:bulletblack: Fetish Portraits in the Woods
:bulletblack: Grunge Fetish Portraits
:bulletblack: Fetish Heroes & Villains  
:bulletblack: Love


:bulletgreen: Horror & Macabre

:bulletgreen: Photojournalism>Photojournalism

:bulletgreen: Pinup & Glamour
:bulletblack: February Update
:bulletblack: LUSH! Pinup & Glamour Features


:bulletgreen: Street
:bulletblack: Friday night Street Specials v1.1
:bulletblack: Friday night Street Specials v1.2
:bulletblack: Friday night Street Specials v1.3
:bulletblack: Friday night Street Specials v1.4
:bulletblack: Friday night Street Specials v2.1
:bulletblack: Friday night Street Specials v2.2
:bulletblack: Friday night Street Specials v2.3
:bulletblack: The story behind the shot - v.2
:bulletblack: The story behind the shot - v.3


:bulletgreen: Urban & Rural


:bulletblue: Resources & Stock Images
:bulletblack: Stock & Resources Gallery Updates and Proposed Changes
:bulletblack: Stock & Res ftlo... #3 STARS


:bulletgreen: Science Fiction & Space Art

:bulletblue: Text Art & Typography
:bulletblack: TypoTalks with *suqer
:bulletblack:
TypoTalks with ~knarfart!
:bulletblack: Typo Feature - Serif
:bulletblack: Behind the typefaces by MartinSilvertant


:bulletblue: Traditional Art
:bulletgreen: Sculpture
:bulletgreen: Street Art & Graffiti


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The Community Relations team exists to facilitate communication amongst deviantART's administration, volunteers and members. Our goal is to foster creative genius by encouraging artists to grow, collaborate and participate in a friendly and supportive artistic environment.

Watch :iconcommunityrelations: for up to date news and events!
Bi-monthly newsletter from the Community Relations team.
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:iconrobmitchem:
RobMitchem Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I agree with you about descriptions being optional.
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:iconirenelangholm:
IreneLangholm Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
I think that Daily Deviations should have descriptions because it tells a little something about why the volunteer selected it. Most of the time when I look at a DD without a description I am wondering exactly why it was featured and from everyone I've spoken with, they feel the same way.
If some people feels it distracts from the work, they can choose not to read it. Pretty simple.

I feel that volunteers are chosen to represent a gallery that they have knowledge of and therefore there is no reason why they shouldn't be competent to write a description. I want to learn what they see when they feature something. I'm looking for both technical and conceptual descriptions, maybe even just one of the two. Something that reflects on why this piece of art is unique enough to be featured.

A DD without a description gives me the impression that the person who features it was either too lazy or indifferent to bother writing a few words about the artwork. So I definitely think there should be a presentment of the artwork in text form.
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:iconyongl:
YongL Featured By Owner Feb 29, 2012  Hobbyist Filmographer
what about the 'a picture paints a thousand words contest'? It's already march and no result is posted up yet. :confused:
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:iconaj333:
AJ333 Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't know that a comment on a daily deviation should be mandatory but personally I like it when there is one. It lets me know why it was featured and what to look at about the piece.

If I ever got a DD myself some day (far into the future) I'd probably prefer if it had a comment from the suggester or featurer but if it didn't I'd still be honored I got a DD at all :nod:
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:iconzippybluedwarf:
zippybluedwarf Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2012  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Re DD descriptions: I am a fan! I don't think they should be mandatory--many folks probably can't find the right words and some works speak for themselves! I do find these descriptions an art in itself, and generally descriptions hold up to a quality standard.

I have other thoughts, but one major argument to keep them: The medium of some artisan crafts is often difficult to tell. Often the glory of a piece (say, paper art) is that it looks like a photograph or some other medium. Having a little description can cue in someone to what it truly is and encourage them to click on the thumbnail and get a better look!
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:iconmoonbeam13:
Moonbeam13 Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
thank you!
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:iconmr-ripley:
Mr-Ripley Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Frankly, I rarely read the description on DDs. The pics took all my attention instantly.
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:iconmoonbeam13:
Moonbeam13 Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Thanks for sharing your thoughts :)
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:iconcarpenoctem410:
carpenoctem410 Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2012  Student General Artist
:bulletpurple: Do you feel descriptions on daily deviations should be mandatory? If so, why?
- I don't think they should be mandatory. But still I'd prefer if someone takes the time to write a few words :)

:bulletpurple: Do you find descriptions distract from the artwork?
- No, not at all. Very often, they show me another point of view or another aspect I haven't considered yet, and I enjoy that!

:bulletpurple: I believe that writing descriptions is an art form itself so if someone isn't comfortable writing something, I'd prefer they leave it black, agree or disagree?
- I agree. If someone doesn't know what to write or doesn't feel comfortable writing something, it's ok if they leave it blank. Still it would be nice if they take the time to at least try :)

:bulletpurple: What makes a good description for you? What are you looking for when you read them?
- A good description tells me something about the art piece, the technical aspects or the meaning etc., or tells me about the emotions and thoughts the suggester or the gallery moderator had while looking at the piece.
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:iconmoonbeam13:
Moonbeam13 Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Thank you!
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:iconalisbet:
Alisbet Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2012
Oh yes, it's that time again and as usual, left my application in hopes to be a Chat and Forums moderator. I hope this time I get the position.
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:icondeadsweet:
DeadSweet Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
I'm kind of half and half on the DD descriptions. Often the descriptions given are awful, opinionated purple prose, for me this ruins it. If any information on why it was chosen had to be given, I'd like it to be the reasons why the piece is technically accomplished, rather than someone else's, (be that the suggester or the CV's) opinion on it. At the end of the day, an opinionated description almost always amounts to: "I liked it because of this. I featured it because of this."
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:iconmoonbeam13:
Moonbeam13 Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Thanks!
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:icondistortedsmile:
DistortedSmile Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
:love:





:whisper: Although, Danie - when you are mention about DD descriptions you say "I'd prefer they leave it black"..... are we being hip now? :giggle:
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:iconphoenixleo:
phoenixleo Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2012
hmm...:O_o:
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:iconporcelainpoet:
PorcelainPoet Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2012
Do you feel descriptions on daily deviations should be mandatory? If so, why? - No, never. This should be up to the person featuring it.
Do you find descriptions distract from the artwork? - Not at all.
I believe that writing descriptions is an art form itself so if someone isn't comfortable writing something, I'd prefer they leave it black, agree or disagree? - They should have the option to leave it blank if they want to.
What makes a good description for you? What are you looking for when you read them? - I don't read the descriptions half the time anyways.
Any other thoughts or suggestions you have I would love to hear! - I personally like the system in place. I like that volunteers have a say in how they want to do their DD features. If they don't want to say anything/can't think of anything to say, they should still have the option to leave it blank.

I always tried to write descriptions when I featured DD's as a volunteer (if the suggesters hadn't written good descriptions themselves). But once in a while, I just couldn't come up with anything other than a few words - because sometimes the images clearly speak for themselves and nothing needs to be said.
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:iconmoonbeam13:
Moonbeam13 Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Thanks for the feedback!!
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:iconporcelainpoet:
PorcelainPoet Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2012
Yes, my pleasure. :)
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:iconjoeyboylondon:
joeyboylondon Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2012  Professional Filmographer
The community is thriving! :iconcute-yes-plz:
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:iconsilverinkblot:
SilverInkblot Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
While I can see why some might look at DD descriptions unfavorably, I'd rather they be mandatory than absent altogether - not because of the community looking at the DD's, but because of the artist and the suggester. It's a disservice to the artist to not explain why this one piece, out of ALL the pieces available on dA, was chosen to be highlighted. It's like tossing a trophy to the audience at an award show - it doesn't actually mean anything to the person who catches it. You may as well be throwing darts at your screen :XD:

It's also a disservice to the suggester to put the work into writing a good blurb to pike the CV's/ community's interest and then not even use it. I know I've been rather miffed in the past about taking the time to write a good summary that was never seen again :| Why should I put the time in if that's how it is?
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:iconfieldsoffire:
FieldsOfFire Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2012
And now that it's up and running, let me say that the number of comments being listed under a piece is a really good idea. If you guys keep track of this sort of thing, I'd love to know if it's increased the number of comments people make, in a month or two or whatever.
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:icontursiart:
tursiart Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
DD suggesters are generally required to explain why they think the art in question is worth a DD, so I think it's only fair that DD selectors offer the same in return.

I understand writing is not everyone's strong suit, and English is not everyone's first language. But... think of it from this perspective:
Your average DD selector gets an average of 100 DD suggestions a day. So basically, people in the community are suggesting what they consider the very best, then the selector picks the top 1% of those picks. Those are some pretty high standards. I think if you're picking the best of the best, you should be able to at least explain, even if just in very basic terms, what moved you to pick it. Even if it's in your native tongue and not English, I'd rather see that then nothing at all. (As a side note... Sure this site is mostly in English, but the users are from all over the World. I kind of like the idea of scanning the DDs and perchance seeing a description written in one's first language rather than English. There's something heartwarming about that.)

As an opposite note, the thing I dislike seeing is the same cliche, overused, contrived and very shallow praise every single day, day after day... and to be honest, I DO get this impression with some of the descriptions given to DDs. Not gonna name any names, but it's there. It gives the impression the selector feels obligated to say something, but doesn't quite know what exactly to say. You are right in that writing truly is an art form all it's own. But, as with visual art, one won't improve without practice.

At the end of the day, I guess what I'm saying is... Comments (either by the suggester or the selector) are a good thing. They help both the artist and the community understand why the piece was chosen. I don't think, as others have said, that it causes one to 'pre-judge' (Oh come on! There are already hundreds of folks giving their two cents in the comments of every single one. Give me a break. :) ) I encourage comments from the suggester/selector. I don't think they should be mandatory because I don't like forcing people do to things they don't want to do, but I think a well thought out statement should be *highly* encouraged.
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:iconkerrigore:
Kerrigore Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm going to say what's probably already been said regarding DDs and descriptions but I do enjoy a reason behind why DDs are selected. I like reading descriptions, even if they are brief. I honestly think if something is going to be featured than something should be said about it!
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:iconminato-kushina:
Minato-Kushina Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2012
What a wonderful article, full of useful information! :heart:

Being a DD suggester, I almost always include descriptions in my suggestions, even after the "non description" system started. Part of it, was to "convince" the CV and later the community to like this piece as much as I liked it, to make them see why I chose and suggested it. :) But maybe others prefer to give their personal interpretation to the DD. So, to satisfy both sides, I think the description should be optional. The CVs and suggesters who like it, they can add it. The others can be free not to add it or simply say some few words about their choice. ;)

Don't stop your great job, Danie! :hug:
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:iconmoonbeam13:
Moonbeam13 Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Thank you :hug:
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:iconilantiis:
iLantiis Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I always like to know WHY a particular deviation was selected to receive a DD. When I see a blank description, I am very discouraged. I don't know much about most types of art (barely a digital art hobbyist and fractalist, and only a beginner in portrait and macro photography), so I always like to know a little behind why the piece is so great. Mind you I think they are all great because the best of the best are chosen, but I'd like to know why and what makes them the best. It gives me some ideas of what to work towards, ideas of what to improve on in my own art, and helps me understand the artist who requested it, the artist who made it, and the volunteer who selected it a little bit better. With so much to gain from an informative description, blankness is just discouraging.
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:iconmoonbeam13:
Moonbeam13 Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Understood, thank you for your thoughts :)
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:iconssceles:
ssceles Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I think people who receive a DD want to know why it was chosen. Even the lesser known artists are sometimes baffled when they get four times as many favorites on their work than comments. They want feedback and to know why the person decided to favorite it.

> This is why the "thanks for the fav, leave a comment?" pop-up was made.
> This is also possibly the reason behind listing how many comments each deviation has received underneath it's thumbnail in gallery listings. That way under-recognized (read: under-commented) things may take some priority.

I've appreciated the increased emphasis on commentary in other areas of the site: communities communicate by leaving comments, afterall. While I'd really, really, really like to see a reason posted behind a deviation's selection (as a courtesy to the person who received it wondering 'why the hell?', although not everyone wonders, I suppose) - no, it doesn't have to be made mandatory. I'm just saying it'd probably be appreciated by the community, especially on the receiving end.

It's already enough that time has been taken to ask how important those DD selection descriptions are to us. It still shouldn't have to be mandatory, but hopefully the point has gotten across. =3 Even a simple "This is an excellent use of color." is better than nothing! In the end, the person who made the art may be totally lost as to how it was special enough to get a DD anyway, and why more so than their other works?
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:iconmoonbeam13:
Moonbeam13 Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
good thoughts thank you!
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:iconfieldsoffire:
FieldsOfFire Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2012
I do see DD written descriptions that really enhance the artwork in question, but those are relatively rare compared to those that distract from or detract from it. Not to knock the selectors-it's probably difficult trying to come up with something to say every day. I'd be fine with a no-description policy, because I'd reckon that having some with descriptions and some without is just unfair in a few ways, and a distraction in and of itself. I think the little thing that `Thiefoworld described above would be a good middle ground-artist, suggestor, selector, and category along with the piece and its title.

Like I said before, I'm fine with the new rules. 6 months is a fine amount of time given the number of people on this sight, and one a day should keep the "why is this a DD?" complaints down. Ultimately, I agree with what lolly once said about the subject for what the guiding principle should be: "A Daily Deviation is most likely an artist's first exposure to millions of people. Treat them with the respect they deserve."
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:iconmoonbeam13:
Moonbeam13 Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
I do agree having the category listed under the DD would help immensely. Thank you for your thoughts :)
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:iconthiefoworld:
Thiefoworld Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2012
I'm also seconding what `Astralseed said :B

Talking not about descriptions but related to it, there is a little detail that I would personally love to be included in the DDs description area alongside the author and the featurer and is the deviation's category. Something like:


xShinydeviationx by *YoungArtist12
in Digital Art > Painting & Airbrushing > Sci-Fi

Suggested by =AnotherDeviant
Featured by ^Volunteer880



I personally pay attention to categories because sometimes the category can give you a new perception of why the deviation was selected or why is awesome. Sometimes you see a photograph that judging it just by the thumbnail you could say it has nothing special, but then you take a closer look and discover it's not a photograph, but a pencil drawing, or is made of text, or is in fact a photograph but is stock, by itself it's not a memorable photo, but when you see it with stock user eyes you can see a lot of potential. I think displaying the categories from the DD page would help people take a closer look at some of them "Hey! this is not a photo! is a digital painting!"

I also think it would improve the community's perception that deviations from a wide variety of categories are selected everyday.
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:iconmoonbeam13:
Moonbeam13 Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
I agree categories would help a lot!
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:iconthiefoworld:
Thiefoworld Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2012
I forgot to mention that this should be included automatically by the system, not manually by the volunteer :B just to make it clear!
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:iconthecreativejenn:
TheCreativeJenn Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Both would be beneficial though..if it were inputted manually and then hard coded into the system. That would also keep things very organized so people can either skim through to view a DD based on their favorite gallery, or just view something different from a gallery they never imagined to see amazing work!!

For example:

"Wow, this kind of work is in the _____ gallery?? I should check out that section more often!"


in other words, your suggestion alongside `Astralseed's is awesomesauce. :B
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:iconartbycher:
ArtByCher Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2012   Traditional Artist
I think the way we look at a piece of art is personal. A description is nice but I don't feel it to be necessary when suggesting a DD. What catches my attention is the work itself.
I think the 6 month rule is a great idea. I want to see some work from artists I've never seen. In fact I'm always on the look out for a great piece where the artist has never received a DD. The chances for those artists increases with the 6 month rule.
On a side note, one of the easiest ways to become more involved is journal features. Many people become disheartened when a suggested DD is not accepted. If you like something share it with your fellow artists. I can't even count how many people I've connected with on here just be viewing someones journal. Even without a premium account you can share links to a great piece of art :heart:
Now wish me luck, I just applied for the traditional volunteer position ;)
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:iconmoonbeam13:
Moonbeam13 Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Thank you for your opinion :)
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:iconmelgama:
MelGama Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
1. Do you feel descriptions on daily deviations should be mandatory? If so, why?
A: I don't think so. I sent thousands of suggestions - most of them were not read by the moderators so I'll lose my time writing for something that nobody will see... :hmm:

2. Stock & Resources
A: I sent the form to be moderator but any answer about this.

3. Want to show your devious pride and get involved in ongoing Community Projects?
A: I'm planning to make a contest about Anime and I called everybody envolved in this at Senior's Forum but any response. It's really bored! :(

I'm trying to make my best! :smooch:
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:iconrydi1689:
rydi1689 Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
She asked if descriptions should be mandatory, meaning that in case the suggester didn't add one, the CV should write one instead. So even if you didn't write anything,were they to select your suggestion they'd have to make a description up before setting the DD.
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:iconmelgama:
MelGama Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I understood and I answered as I really think - maybe not in the correct form... :giggle:
I don't think that description should be necessary... ;)
Thank you! :smooch:
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:iconvesner:
vesner Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
I think that descriptions should be left completely blank.

First of all, I for one have always problems writing reasons when suggesting DDs. It's impossible for me to fit in just two sentences why I think the piece is good. Forcing it sometimes leads many people write to words like" the lightning's pretty" or "it looks cool" which is completely unprofessional and can even be a bit out of place when in fact the person receiving a DD is a professional with years of experience on their back.
"I like how it sparkles" isn't exactly what such a person would like to hear. It's also a very bad thing to say for a beginner who was lucky enough to receive the feature as they will concentrate on the sparkling instead of developing their art to higher levels.

On the other hand there is no place for an in-depth critique... but then only a tiny percentage of the users would actually be able to write a critique that would be on an acceptable level on either technical side or the purely artistic interpretation side. Then again critiques have a completely different place on the site and should be left there.

It's a bit demotivating that all the DD descriptions for some time were a maze of "awesome"s, "spectacular"s and "amazing"s. Boring, repetitive, repetitive and boring but only because the fact that when something receives a DD it's already tagged with those words - otherwise it wouldn't get the feature, would it? Repeating what is in the picture is also very redundant. [link] This is a very good example. The description only tells us what we already know by looking at it. Yes, it's a portrait. Yes, it's very good. Yes, I see it's made by X.

All that leads me to one conclusion - let the art speak for itself. Let the users judge on their own if they like something or not, without holding their hand and pointing at the exact place they should be looking at. The less we say about something we want to show others, the more we provoke them to give a response as the community doesn't like emptiness and feels the urge to fill it in. I would rather read a hundred of different interpretations than see just one description that others are supposed to nod to.
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Moonbeam13 Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Thank you for your opinion :)
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JamminJo Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
I completely agree with `Astralseed :nod:
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LadyofGaerdon Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2012  Professional Writer
Do you feel descriptions on daily deviations should be mandatory? If so, why?
Do you find descriptions distract from the artwork?
I believe that writing descriptions is an art form itself so if someone isn't comfortable writing something, I'd prefer they leave it black, agree or disagree?
What makes a good description for you? What are you looking for when you read them?
Any other thoughts or suggestions you have I would love to hear!


I read your journal about DD descriptions and I find it kind of baffling that people would be upset that you "copy-and-pasted" the description given by the suggesting deviant. If I got a DD, I'd want to know why it was suggested! I really do think descriptions enhance the DD feature. I don't think they should be mandatory, however. A forced description is no good. And as you say, some people just aren't good at writing descriptions, and that's okay.

I don't think descriptions detract from the feature. It's just one person's interpretation. There's nothing wrong with that, and I don't see why that would stop people from forming their own interpretation. I think a good description doesn't try to explain the piece, but says why they feel it deserved the feature.
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Moonbeam13 Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Thanks :)
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Xadrea Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
While I don't think that DD descriptions should be mandatory, I do miss seeing them! If anything, I'd just like to know why a person suggested it, or why the CV is featuring it :D It puts a more down to earth feel to the DD section and not make it look like some bureaucratic move from popular deviants (which is what I've heard some people claiming...I know that it isn't at all true lol)
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Moonbeam13 Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
totally understand that :)
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alexandrasalas Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Excellent update! And I'm looking forward to more input from the community on what DD descriptions should be. :)
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Moonbeam13 Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
me too!
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Branchewski Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Really, what `Astralseed said. :bucktooth:
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